|My father, Norman was born in Panama in 1920 (Panama is a side bar to this conversation). He was a contemporary of Marvin Dave.
My grandfather, Joseph, was born near Kiev, in April 1885. But I think one of his 2 or 3 older brothers were born in the lower east side of Manhattan in the early 1880’s. Joseph would have been a contemporary of David Scadron. His brothers were Samuel, Irwin. I can’t recall if there was a 4th. Sam was the only one I was close to.
My great grandfather, Jacob was born near Kiev in about 1854; and
My great, great grandfather Max was born in the 1820’s also near Kiev.